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Please change the article name to Maria Skłodowska-Curie

The operative policy is WP:COMMONNAME. Quoting User:Zzzs: we should not and will not change the article title based on arguments like "Polish scientists should be recognised!" and "The French had enough scientists!". Remsense ‥ 论 23:48, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Which is her real legal name. There is no reason to omit half of her legal name. 2A02:A311:4339:7880:5CF:EF50:5D:A311 (talk) 15:08, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@2A02:A311:4339:7880:5CF:EF50:5D:A311

There is: WP:COMMONNAME Wikifan153 (talk) 18:05, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Then why not leave it as Maria Skłodowska? 109.231.11.167 (talk) 12:36, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

But this is also clearly obscuring her identity. Its not a case of a phonetic change but a case of appropriating her origin. Essasitopapopito (talk) 11:43, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think it should be Marie Skłodowska-Curie. This choice would satisfy everyone, without omitting an important part of her identity, one that some people are obsessed to hide under many excuses (hard to pronounce, not necessary, was french etc.) Awhileo (talk) 13:26, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Its also littrely how she wished to be addressed, omitting the first half littrely is going against her wishes 2A00:23C8:D018:9F01:C910:A00E:7349:C640 (talk) 12:24, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

thats right, i hope one day we will see americans say "Skłodowska" Simon2131 (talk) 14:32, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. And then change “known simply as Marie Curie” to “known as Marie Curie in the English speaking world” 38.99.190.243 (talk) 22:40, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed, the French have enough of their own scientists, they have no need to appropriate Polish ones. 80.94.19.44 (talk) 01:39, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Just want you guys to know that we should not and will not change the article title based on arguments like "Polish scientists should be recognised!" and "The French had enough scientists!" against policies and guidelines like WP:COMMONNAME. _ZZ^Z 'S 15:02, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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she was Polish, don’t just type her birth last name, when she married Pierre Curie she insisted on being called Maria SKŁODOWSKA-Curie, please fix it or i’ll do it myself Nikolairaskolnikov (talk) 12:24, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. PianoDan (talk) 18:17, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

To be clear, this has also been discussed repeatedly, and would require a consensus developed here AS WELL AS reliable sources. PianoDan (talk) 18:18, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Isn't her signature and the inscription on her grave sufficient evidence of what she wanted to be called? 185.239.42.160 (talk) 22:38, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'd like to remind about this issue. As for the sources, my best bet at the moment would be the PWN Encyclopedia[1], I don't think she ever mentioned it outright, that she wanted to be addressed by her full name because of her heritage, but there are a lot of letters, in which she describes her attitude towards her homeland[2]. Other that that, I think the sole fact that her signature often contained her full name[3], and the fact that she named an element after Poland should be indicative enough. 2A02:A31B:2081:8D80:A045:4247:3827:2312 (talk) 02:14, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nothing to remind about us about! Our policy is exactly as stated, and we've explained it here multiple times. Remsense ‥ 论 02:39, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Then cite sources for why she should be called Marie Curie. Marie Curie is clearly not the consensus option for her name. Maria Skłodowska-Curie is at least not hiding her identity and nationality. Essasitopapopito (talk) 12:03, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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change Marie Curie to Marie Skłodowska - Curie 95.160.158.164 (talk) 11:39, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: Please see WP:COMMONNAME. Her full name is given at the start of the article. BelowTheSun (T•C) 13:45, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Marie Skłodowska-Curie

Dont say "know as Marie Curie" she is must and will be know as Marie Skłodowska-Curie, thats her name. But when you dont put her full name into the title, you make her know in her husbands name, not her. Change that. Chloreenek (talk) 19:08, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"must and will be known as" are not our business - Wikipedia is not an attempt to shape the way things are discussed or to predict the future. We reflect how things are discussed in reliable sources: see WP:RIGHTGREATWRONGS. I agree with you that it would be better if she wasn't associated with her husband's name, but that's not the test here.

As for "is...known as", I just don't know that that's true. It seems that the vast majority of sources call her Marie Curie, and that this is how she is discussed in media and everyday conversation most of the time. If you want to see the article changed, you will need to make a case that she is more often referred to as "Marie Skłodowska-Curie" than as "Marie Curie" in reliable sources. AntiDionysius (talk) 19:18, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

With all respect but even Sklodowska Curie used sign 'Maria Sklodowska Curie' not 'Maria Curie' and many times she says that she's polish scientist. This is really disrespectful for the one of the greatest womans in history of science 92.31.69.227 (talk) 10:11, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Again, I agree with you that it would be better to refer to her that way. But Wikipedia does not write what I think would be best, Wikipedia writes what most reliable sources say. AntiDionysius (talk) 11:51, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

1. In Nobel Prize documents she is called "Maria Skłodowska Curie" - [4]

2. Her own thesis with her name

[5]https://prenumeruj.forumakademickie.pl/fa/2017/11/maria-sklodowska-curie-1867-1934-cz-ii/

3. Her signature for U.S. Tax Purposes

[6]https://www.invaluable.com/auction-lot/rare-marie-sklodowska-curie-signature-for-u-s-tax-59-c-148415c82a 78.11.131.187 (talk) 21:17, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That's all true, but simply irrelevant for how we choose the titles for articles, as I already explained to you below. Remsense ‥ 论 21:21, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

So you think that a Polish woman marrying a French man automatically becomes French? Got it. Now stop disrespecting the Polish nation and her own wishes and change the title according to her legal name. She chose to be Polish and we cannot show her false name in a wikipedia title. This seriously should not be an argument. Essasitopapopito (talk) 10:21, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Once again, this is a straightforward matter of Wikipedia policy and has nothing to do with anyone trying to change her nationality or "disrespecting" any country. Please refrain from casting such aspersions on other editors. AntiDionysius (talk) 10:50, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This in itself is not the best argument, but I would believe that there is a reason to change.

Please see MOS:PL which claims that for polish names you should use the polish name and spelling unless there is clear evidence for the person themselves preferring a different spelling.

MOS:BIOEXCEPT also says that - if the person themselves used that name, and the name was actually used by verifiable sources, then there is a fair reason to use that name in the article name.

If you find good sources on Marie using "Skłodowska-Curie" surname more than "Curie", and sources (eg. newspapers from the time) where they also call her "Maria Skłodowska-Curie" then you might have a chance of solving this dispute.

PS: I also believe that this very article might've kind of done a WP:CIRCULAR by making other sites just use "Marie Curie" instead of "Marie Skłodowska-Curie" which has been used frequently in the past to refer to Marie.

Wojtekpolska1013 (talk) 21:10, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Missing mother and father information in the infobox

In the infobox it is common and good practice to put 'mother' and 'father' fields. Currently there is only "Relatives" field. Finehance (talk) 07:57, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Additionally the field "Family" refers to in-law family while it is used widely on wikipedia to give by-blood family reference. Finehance (talk) 08:01, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

1902 photo of the Curie family is in reverse

The way Pierre's jacket is buttoned up and the pocket on his right show that this photo has been reversed. Is it possible to correct this? Kombo the mzungu (talk) 09:07, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Article Title

It should be "Maria Skłodowska-Curie" 78.11.131.187 (talk) 21:09, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Certainly not, as we usually title articles according to the commonly understood names of their subjects in English; for biographies, this is often (usually?) not the subject's full or legal name. Remsense ‥ 论 21:12, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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MISSPELLED WORDS

Section: Early Years fourth paragraph enrol - enroll

Section: See Also second indentation sceptical - skeptical 184.188.173.229 (talk) 05:22, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: This article is written in British English, where enrol and sceptical are standard spellings. Remsense ‥ 论 05:26, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the explanation. I apologize to have wasted the time. 184.188.173.229 (talk) 09:03, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You did no such thing, glad I could help! Remsense ‥ 论 09:09, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Editnotice

Considering the volume of repetitive inquiries about the article title, should we put in place one of those flashy editnotices to inform of the current consensus? As a page mover, I can make it, if there is consensus for that. -- Maddy from Celeste (WAVEDASH) 22:59, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The amount of fights suggests that there is no consensus. I would suggest against that for this moment, as cementing the title as is, would shape the discourse and her future recognition along a very western, british and french perspective and would not account for her recognition in her country of origin and her own wishes. Maciej Kisling (talk) 07:15, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You'd be wrong: policy is extraordinarily clear, and just because there are several editors who are not familiar with what policy says or do not care, does not mean there is a lack of consensus regarding how it applies. You'd know that if you read WP:Consensus. Remsense ‥ 论 02:36, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Change "Marie Curie" to "Marie Skłodowska Curie" since she was still using her maiden surname after getting married. 188.33.250.54 (talk) 15:03, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{Edit semi-protected}} template. _ZZ^Z 'S 15:16, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please change the page's name to her correct name. MARIA SKŁODOWSKA-CURIE

Her correct name was MARIA SKŁODOWSKA-CURIE 86.13.148.252 (talk) 19:05, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not done See WP:COMMONNAME. John (talk) 19:38, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Change the page's name.

Maria Skłodowska-Curie, that's her name not Marie Curie. One thing that's not mentioned enough in this conversation is the fact that both of her last names were used on her second nobel prize. THAT'S WHAT SHE WANTED TO BE REMEBERED AS. It's honestly disrespectful to not use both of her last names as the name of the page. "Oh but in the madia she's mostly reffered to as Marie Curie" AND IT'S ONE OF THE ISSUES. Yes I am aware her full name is listed below the page's name but it is much less impact than if both her last names were listed on her page's name. Iiiio334 (talk) 17:09, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No. See WP:COMMONNAME. _ZZ^Z 'S 21:21, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]